Friday, September 19, 2014

Lucretius vs. Epictetus


According to Lucretius, the purpose of Philosophy is to gain two things. The first concept is ataraxia, which is the freedom of fear. The second concept is aponia, the absence of pain. This two combined lead to a happy and tranquil life. He also believes that pleasure and pain are the measures of good and bad. The only way to achieve happiness is through the seeking of pleasures, which is a good. The only way to get rid of the bad is to get rid of pain. The only way to get rid of both is basically to die. Death is the end to both pain and pleasure. However, that makes it seem like death is the only option. Yes, we all will die, but it seems as though Lucretius is saying that death is the only way out. To seek pleasure all the time, according to Lucretius, brings happiness, which is an intrinsic good. However, constantly trying to feed desires, appetites and pleasures, according to Plato, leaves the soul disorderly and eventually leads to unhappiness. Nonetheless, happiness is the main goal of a pleasure. According to Epictetus, it is better to remove all emotions and allow reasoning to prevail. The problem that I have with that is when emotions are bottled up for so long, the person can explode. Not allowing emotions come out will eventually lead to a disorderly soul. This is where Lucretius and Epictetus relate. According to Lucretius, it is better to have friendships instead of relationships or love because although loves brings happiness, it can also cause pain. Friendships do not cause as much pain and fear as love does. Love exerts a hidden fear of being lost.  Epictetus believes that having the emotion of love take over is not a rational thing to do. By having no emotions at all, there won’t be a problem of having the fear of losing a loved one or death.  My question is are Lucretius and Epictetus conveying the same concepts, or is there a difference?

1 comment:

  1. In my opinion they are different. Lucretius says that our virtue is the midpoint between the extremely pleasure and the pain. And Epictetus believes that our virtue is to maintain a will in accord with the reason of nature.

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